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Monday, July 7. 2008National Real Estate Prices Down 0.5% in JuneWe released our National Real Estate Report today. Here's the press release.
Wednesday, May 28. 2008Will Prices Continue to Fall In Milpitas?Here's a funny Meebo-IM chat I had with a home buyer yesterday. This guy is looking for a negotiating angle with home sellers. Smart! [15:37] meeboguest: hi [15:37] mikesimonsen: hi [15:38] meeboguest: will prices in Milpitas Area continue to fall? [15:38] mikesimonsen: [15:39] meeboguest: seriously....how do I negotiate with seller to factor another 10% reduction in price? [15:40] mikesimonsen: well, you can bring our Milpitas report with you and use it to illustrate not only prices, but demand levels and days on market trends [15:41] mikesimonsen: you can say, "Look at this, you've got easily another few months before this thing moves and I'm willing to buy now!" [15:41] mikesimonsen: In the reports it even breaks up the data by price range in that zip code [15:42] mikesimonsen: so you can say, "The market is even worse for sellers of homes like this. So you're lucky you found me!" [15:42] meeboguest: thanks...I am even luckier if that report is free [15:43] mikesimonsen: for $19 you're getting a bargain! [15:43] mikesimonsen: I'll expect a thank-you bottle of wine when you get your price 15:43] meeboguest: how do i get the report? [15:44] mikesimonsen: go to this page, register, and buy the basic report: http:// [15:45] mikesimonsen: you bet! good luck! What do you think the chances are that the Seller's Agent is prepared with market data to counter-negotiate? My guess is that they'll get blindsided by this aggressive buyer's approach. Maybe, just maybe, we can motivate the seller's agent to prepare better in the future...
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Tuesday, May 27. 2008Case Shiller - Surprise! Home Prices dropped a few months agoMacroMarkets released the monthly Case Shiller Index today. Case Shiller tracks repeat sales of single family homes. Like most real estate data (except ours of course) the Case Shiller lags the actual market by several months. This is data for March 2008.
![]() Nationally we saw a less-steep price decline in the last few months than we did at the beginning of the year. As a bonus, let's look at the Denver chart. The Denver metro actually defied the national carnage until October of last year. Case Shiller picked that up too and you can see that Denver is the smallest of the declines in the sample. We've actually seen a small uptick in Denver pricing this spring. (Don't be fooled by the scale on this chart. With the tight scale, it looks like a rocket, but it's only a few thousand dollars difference.) ![]() Home price trends in the Denver metro market for the 12 months ending May 2008. The tight scale on this chart makes it look stronger than it is, but at least it's not falling through the floor. See also:
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Friday, May 9. 2008May 2008 National Real Estate ReportOur latest National Real Estate Report is out this morning. The headline this month is that while the Altos National 10-City Composite price fell by 0.6% from last month, prices only fell in 7 of the 25 markets covered in the report. Maybe some signs of life? Too soon to call. Probably just spring. Here's where you can download the full PDF May 2008 National Real Estate Report. Here's a chart of our two national housing market composite price metrics. ![]() National Real Estate Prices as measured by the Altos 10-City and Altos 25-City Composites. Data through the first week of May 2008 Here's the full press release:
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Tuesday, February 19. 2008Real Estate Data: Austin EditionThe New York Times last week carried a story on the tale of two housing markets.
We'll leave aside the fact falling prices in the struggling industrial towns and the falling prices on the coast are barely related to each other and focus instead on the last statement. Are home prices in Austin, Texas indeed holding up? Let's look: ![]() Comparing home price trends in Austin Texas, Phoenix Arizona, and San Diego CA From our perspective, Austin is indeed holding up better than some of the most bubbly markets, like Phoenix and San Diego. Keep in mind though that in every market, the answer is: it depends. It depends on your price point, it depends on your neighborhood. In fact if we dive into Austin a little deeper, we find where that even though the prices haven't adjusted deeply, we can see where market demand is indeed cooling. ![]() Days on Market for homes in Austin Texas. Data as of February 15 2008. Each line is a price quartile. First Quartile are the most expense 25% of homes on the market. Days on market is climbing steadily across all price points. Despite a seasonal improvement in market time, The high end of Austin is on the market for a pretty long time right now. Buyers are in no hurry. Furthermore, in Austin, when you look at the price quartiles, you can see the top of the market is squeezing but the bottom remains reasonably solid. This often implies, as the Times suggests, that the underlying economy is strong, immigration is positive, and people aren't so worried about their jobs. Here's the chart of home prices in Austin, by quartile. Note the slight squeeze at the top end of the market. ![]() Real Estate Price trends in Austin Texas as of February 15 2008 So I'll conclude with a cautious agreement with the Times. Yes indeed there are markets so far escaping major carnage. Many of these markets didn't have the incredible upside in the past few years, so that stands to reason. Finally though, nearly all markets are showing signs of weakness. The key worry for all these markets is that they're following the economy, not leading it. If a recession evolves into full bloom, I don't see how anyone is spared. Links: Sunday, February 17. 2008Real Estate Data: Dallas Edition
[aside: as a snobby Californian, this is what I instinctively think of when I think Dallas homes. But this makes me want to move there.] Link: Our free Dallas Real Estate Research Tuesday, February 12. 2008February 2008 National Housing Market ReportLast week we published the February editition of our National Housing Market report [PDF download]. I was traveling and forgot to add it to the blog, so here it is. We've expanded the coverage this month and added a few more cities ebyond the initial 20 covered by the Case Shiller Index. We'll add a few more important cities in the upcoming versions of the reports too. Here are the highlights from this month's report.
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Monday, February 4. 2008Measuring the Decline in the Sacramento Housing MarketJonathan Miller published the November Radar Logic RPX housing market report over the weekend. It's easy to spot that Sacramento is leading the nation down. [aside: Radar Logic is cool. They measure Price Per Square Foot and try to do it across all properties, condos and single family homes, new and existing construction. No small task. The price per square foot approach is intended to measure value of the property regardless of the size of the property itself. In the real estate derivatives trading business, Radar is getting all the mindshare. Case Shiller is falling behind. more here.] In the report just published for November, Sacramento saw a price-per-square-foot decline of 18%. Zowie. For those of you unfamiliar with California's central valley, this is an area dominated by lots of new construction, in huge projects, partly as Bay Area super-exurb. So the underlying economy in the Central Valley isn't nearly as dynamic as San Francisco, San Jose, or Los Angeles. Also much less dominated by the high-end, Sacramento is feeling the subprime fallout harder than most. So Radar Logic is publishing for November. What are the real-time stats saying? Sacramento is not seeing any relief yet. Here's our price per square foot for Sacramento through February 1 2008. ![]() Price Per Square Foot for single family homes in Sacramento, CA through Feb 1 2008. Notice the price is slightly higher than the Radar Logic number. That's because we track Condominiums separately and this is for the city of Sacramento specifically. The important factor is the direction. Sacramento Housing Market Data Links:Our free Sacramento Real Estate Research page Here's a solid Sacramento Area Blog for more local flavor. Monday, January 28. 2008Can Economic Stimulus Save The Housing Market?Been getting a few requests about our opinion on the various proposes economic stimulus packages in the works - including sharply reduced short term rates, and some kind of tax relief. How will they impact the housing market? Are we seeing any psychological impact already? First things first: Are we in recession already? Is a recession inevitable? From where we sit, the current-recession answer is, No, it doesn't appear so. Slowdown, yes. But exports are strong with the weak dollar, and there other signs of okay-ness out there. Gonna be hard to avoid one before the end of the year though. Here's my favorite way to look at recession probability. The folks at ECRI publish a weekly leading economic indicator (WLI). In several decades they've not missed a recession call and have had no false-positives. This data is good. Weekly Leading Indicators. Recession Watch from ECRI What's this chart tell us? This data leads the economy by 6-9 months. ECRI looks for the Three P's of drop in its economic statistics before it calls a recession. Pronounced (check), persistent (check), pervasive (allllmost). We're in the danger zone here, which is why immediate monetary (interest rates) and fiscal (taxes, etc) stimulus might just work. Where does the housing market fall into all this? We know that the real estate market is generally lousy. But really, really low mortgage rates mean that you can lock in affordability, if you have the credit. From Bloomberg: The yield curve as of January 27 2008. Low rates are good. source: Bloomberg. [whose New York offices I visited last week, incidentally. Very cool. Googlesque. Maybe nicer.] For a long time, our worst case scenario here at Altos has been recession plus high interest rates. We've avoided that so far. As a result the pain in the housing market is most pronounced at the margins: Overstretched, with weak credit. New home construction. Here's what I mean. ![]() So the weakness, while felt across the spectrum, is most acutely painful at the low-end of the market. That implies that a deep recession with it's job loss and income uncertainty is what it'll take to knock the final leg of the stool out from under the the rest of the market. Conclusion: stimulate away, Uncle Sam, and do it quick. Sunday, January 27. 2008Our Complete Real Estate Research Product LineAs you know, Altos Research specializes in real-time market analytics in the housing market. What's less obvious are some of the cool ways people use our stuff. As any successful startup, I suppose, we have lots of customers using our real estate data in ways totally unexpected initially. Recently, people have been asking us for a more complete list of the Altos Research services and a little about who uses them. I thought I'd assemble a list here for easy consumption, organized by the types of folks on our customer list. (Apologies in advance that this post is a little more salesy than usual. Just looking to provide a little insight into our company. Do check out some of the sites I link to below. There's a lot of great work out there.) Real Estate Agents and Teams Product: Our Professional Subscription. Personalized reports + AltosCharts and lead generation forms for web sites. Usage: Home Buyer and Seller information, lead generation, blogging Reference Customers: We have hundreds of professional subscribers, but a really great usage of the system for driving web leads is done by the Harper Team in San Ramon, CA. Our friend Chris Iverson with the Ventoux Group at Keller Williams in Palo Alto is highly effective at integrating market analytics into his listing presentations and working with buyers. He teaches a class on the topic. Chris Schweiger in Scottsdale is one of many Altos-bloggers. [A more complete list of Altos-bloggers coming soon.] Real Estate Brokerages, Title Company Offices Product: Professional Subscription, site licenses, occasional customization Usage: We frequently set up office-level subscriptions for brokers who sponsor for their whole team. Reference Customers: Paragon Real Estate Group in San Francisco. Fortune International in Miami is another. Oakville Properties is a client with offices in the Bay Area, Las Vegas, and Orlando. Home Buyers and Sellers, Independent Investors, Appraisers, some Agents Product: Market Analysis Details Reports, per city. Our Basic subscription. Usage: People want to know more about the market than their competition and don't need the personal marketing/branding benefits of our Pro subscription level. When we started this company, we naively thought this group would be our bread and butter. In truth, our local market free research pages drives a lot of our web traffic and is only indirectly responsible for driving our major sources of revenue. Note that we're now available in over 20 metros around the country (Here's Portland!) We open up more each week. Some of these folks will add the AltosCharts to their subscription so they can build their own reports, query different stats on the fly and learn about any zip code in their region. Reference Customers: We have tons of basic subscribers all around the country now, even some international (folks who tend to be researching the condo markets in Las Vegas and Miami. Surprise, surprise). My favorite quote was from a real estate investor, Dan, who said, "I LOVE your reports! I'd have had to spend a YEAR compiling this kind of information for myself!" [his caps, not mine.] Financial Firms, Banks, Hedge Funds, Lenders Product:AltosCharts and AltosStats Data. Bulk data subscriptions. Usage: Trading and fundamental analysis. We have a growing stable of Wall Street players that feed on our data pipe--from the bulge-bracket banks to long/short hedge funds. The most obvious application for our real-time market data is the housing futures markets. I write occasionally about how our data leads the Case Shiller Index by three months in basically all the markets we cover. The Radar Logic RPX is actually getting more attention on Wall Street these days and we'll be publishing some latest analysis there very soon too. Our trading clients tend to use our market data as an input into massive "quant" analytics systems. They suck in CSV files, where ours is one of many input sources, bringing a unique perspective. In addition to the real estate derivatives markets, some of our Wall Street subscribers use our data for fundamental analysis in their equities trades. For example, if you're a hedge fund thinking of going long a regional bank in the South East, you might want to understand how the trends in the local housing market are going to impact their loan portfolio. Reference customers: Most of these folks prefer to remain, ahem, anonymous. Though a good example is Tradition Financial Services, one the leading real estate derivatives brokers, who use our data for spot-pricing the housing market and publishing research for their derivatives clients. Real Estate Web Sites and Consumer/Investor Portals Product: AltosCharts - local market data Usage: We're seeing a number of really innovative startups working on providing great decision making tools for consumers and particularly investors in real estate. These folks turn to Altos to easily answer for their site visitors/members, "Hows the market?" They integrate AltosCharts into the user Reference Partners: DeedQuest is doing some cool real estate investor products. CondoDomain is building a national condominium site for consumers. Agent Marketing and Technology Providers Product: AltosCharts and Partner Program Usage: These partners provide web sites, marketing, blogging, lead generation tools to real estate agents. We love our partners. We find great symbiotic relationships, because we're all helping real estate pros market more efficiently in an internet world. Reference partners: Kevin and Pat at Domus, RealBird, BringTheBlog are all great examples. Who knew the real estate ecosystem was so complex? And we've only just scratched the surface. 2008 is rocking already. We'll have some big announcements, new partners, and new products coming this year. Stick around! Wednesday, January 2. 2008San Jose Housing Market starts 2008 with twice the inventory of 2007Some posts just write themselves. ![]() Inventory of homes on the market in San Jose California as of January 2008 ![]() Single Family Home Prices in San Jose California as of January 1, 2008 Can't. Help. It. Must. Write. More. Ugly? You betcha. Do these tell the whole story? Not a chance. In Silicon Valley, San Jose is the dominant market, of course. San Jose is a diverse community, with lots of sub-prime and other crazy loans in the past few years. But also some really great neighborhoods with prosperous, fully employed folks. Lots of big, but not-risky loans too. Here's how the market in a desirable part of town, Willow Glen, is holding up. I've done the price chart in Quartiles so you can see the trends at each price point in the market. ![]() Homes in the Willow Glen neighborhood in San Jose, CA zip 95125. Prices holding up much better than the broader market in San Jose. ![]() Available homes in Willow Glen neighborhood of San Jose CA as of January 1 2008. Inventory is up, but much less than the rest of the city. Link: San Jose Housing Market.
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Thursday, December 13. 2007Real-Time National Housing Report Released
In it we look at 20 major metro markets, publish some key stats about pricing and supply and demand trends and we draw some conclusions about what's happening out there. The U.S. metropolitan statistical areas (MSAs) covered in the report include: Atlanta, Boston, Charlotte, Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, Minneapolis, New York, Phoenix, Portland, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, Tampa, and Washington, DC. We're working in conjunction with Stephen Bedekian from Real IQ. Stephen is an industry leader, writer, and consultant and he helped bring this project together. This being the first issue, it took us a few extra days of editing. In future months, we'll be aiming to publish the report just a few days after month's end. The latest version of the report is available for download on our financial institutions page. Or you can download the PDF here. The Press Release headline this month isn't any shocking news - Surprise! Prices are still under pressure! But we're laying the foundation here to be the first to identify the eventual bottom of the market. From the press release:
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